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As always, other discussions on the Open Discussion thread. Kanakuk was supposed to be a happy place a safe place. Usually, the Real Presence is within a side chapel in a parish Church, and people can come in throughout the day and night and pray in that chapel. Pete began working at Kanakuk in 1995 as a counselor and then became a part of the K-Kountry leadership team in 1998. What is the matter with these people? Summer 2009: Newman is hired byFellowship Memphisas a curriculum writer and is given a place to live. An anonymous "John Doe" plaintiff who says he suffered sex abusewhile he attended a Christian youth camp based near Branson recentlysued a former counselorfor civil damages. I do know my brother literally cannot NOT manipulate. If they cover up scandal to protect their damned reputations then they are false. it was very moving. UK never made the facts public. Thanks for saying this. All this presumes that leadership in a church cares a flying fig about the people in the pews. Joe Whiteis aspeaker,author, and currentCEOat Kanakuk Ministries. September 2009: Newman is arrested & then released on $50,000 bond along with a court order not to be around children but he continues working at the church. He was in the temple courts, he was disrupting the precursors to worship, which included trading the evil Roman money for holy temple money so people could buy sacrificial animals. There are some decent people in church, and if we can teach them that is all to the good. I just am not sure it trickles down to the members. Its all pride. I had always though they could be identified by their smooth tongue only to find out many have a real gift for listening. What on earth is going on in christian land these days? They were outspoken, they were athletic, they were the people you wanted to be, the kids you couldnt be, at least, because I didnt have money growing up. I think there is definitely an old boy network with the pastors. For one thing they think differently about the world. Twodozen of them now regularly communicate by text message, Hoffpauir said. And yes, I called Him Jesus, not simply Christ. Loves program. Two years after the Newman case blew up in the media, Newman was sent to prison and Kanakuk finally introduced a "Child Protection Plan"the first time in the camp's long history that procedure and policy surrounding sexual assault was put into writing. After the formal Eucharist the unused wine can either be consumed by the priest and the lay eucharistic ministers or else it can be poured down a special drain directly into the earth, the idea being that consecrated wine is the blood of Christ and he already poured out his blood on the ground at calvary. Peter Newman was hired by Fellowship Memphis. Amen Christiane. Because logic, reason, Christian love for the vulnerable and basic common sense all rebel against these actions! Some eventually do make it all the way across the Tiber (my alley and some find a refuge in the beautiful eastern Orthodox Churches, which is REALLY a change for them coming into eastern Christian ways of seeing the faith of Our Lord . They obviously do not care what it says nor do they think they will ever suffer these consequences. But this is exactly what GRACE does. I could be wrong. Kanakuk peddles their safety systems for profit to schools, insurance companies, churches and camps. http://www.khou.com/news/local/texas/camo-n-cream-ice-cream-new-flavor-from-blue-bell-inspired-by-camouflage-trend/312403852. One more thing in one of the articles, another lady was asked to stop being in the choir because she wrote a letter to the church in support of her friend. In all other cases where a church isnt involved, he has no problem suing. man discovers a law which he has not laid upon himself but which he must obey. In the meantime suffice it to say that Real means real and Presence means presence. The part about him telling them what sex with women was like because he was married now? I dont know how the congregation as a whole felt. And because his sexual desires were for children . many Calvinista leaders believe that God is so with them and their election and awesome leadership that nothing bad could ever happen to them. This imight be true. Its what Las Vegas would be if Ned Flanders was running it.. The Fanatic Persecutor is Anti in the sense of being in direct opposition to, and comes from the Outside. You could argue PR would be a reason to keep things quite at fellowship when something bad happened on their watch, but retaining a person on staff who is a child predator and actually has been arrested for that is bad PR! I am a husband, a father, a son, brother, uncle, friend, a local community member, a chosen child of God, and a Kanakuk Child Sexual Abuse Survivor. After all they cant sign the membership contract covenant. Then I read the story. To all the Children hurt by this person and their family and friends I am sorry this has happened to you. . If I had young children and theyd been to any Christian activities, I would be paranoid. Kanakuk will also call on the CEO of a camp consulting firm to testify that the 2003 streaking incident was handled appropriately and that "there is no evidence of gross negligence or malicious conduct by Joe White or camp management. If we question, then we are labeled not trusting and that is one of the deadly sins. Jacobins stage a Coup on the Dantonists. Kanakuk Kamps leaders say they acted swiftly after learning Pete Newman abused campers. I had always got the impression it is a popular Mormon hangout? Bryan Loritts is the brother-in-law of accused voyeur Rick Trotter. In all my years as a baptist I never, that would be never, heard any emphasis on conscience per se-other than what was taught me at home that one cannot trust the conscience since it was in a fallen state. I cried. But you learn, my God do you learn.. When it comes to actors and other onstage entertainers, I cut them a lot of slack when it comes to plastic surgery. Fellowship Memphis wouldnt have touched him with a ten-foot pole, much less hired him on staff. There is a barbarian aspect to this. But what happens to them? I know highly trained auditors (including in my family) and they arent licensed. Knowing right from wrong and standing with innocent victims not protecting evil. In an expos published by The Dispatch, David and Nancy French detailed how Kanakuk Kamp in Branson, Missouri, handled reports of abuse committed by Pete Newman, a former camp counselor who rose in the ranks to become the camp's director and used his position to groom boys. The kid had been throwing up the entire afternoon and was left alone in the room. So creepy. Some people have to face it very young. The News-Leaderleft three detailed voicemails on the phone line linked to Staples' Branson-area counseling practice. Outright lies. My understanding is that the general target of the Resurgence was to get rid of liberal excesses that had arisen, especially within seminaries. I am not against prevention. Those men get promised to be allowed to control, which is so opposite the example of Jesus. They honestly believe the leaders have the answers. We still would not know how Cultic the Villiage is had it not been for that brave young woman. They are empty men, pursuing the almighty dollar, masquerading in sheep costumes, men without souls. http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/01/us/university-of-kentucky-sues-student-newspaper-sexual-assault/index.html Yes. He is a most credible source, having been present at the church for much of what we discussed in our last post as well as this post. Throw out people who make truly negligent decisions on this, every time maybe? Gateway claims to do background checks on all their staff who work with children. That is my lonely view. Branson is a popular vacation site. Why isnt this the case where such things have been found to go on so long with so many in positions of leadership knowing? He says he wont sue the church, because he would find it uncomfortable to explain to Jesus how he took the churchs money and gave Him back 10%. I talked about worship services and the presence or absence of reverence as related to my childhood church and my current church. Honestly, people told me the same thing, too, about being a missionary, even without knowing me. You give someone a place to hideout today, because you may need one tomorrow. Not that God is not always present everywhere. @ Lea: Hoffpauir said his mother, who only learned about his abuse experience in early February, "is doing awful. Like other young Christianswho crossed Newman's path, Hoffpauir described Newman, then roughly 26 years old,as an ideal person for evangelical youth ministry: "Very charismatic," Hoffpauir told the News-Leader in a recent interview. It was a sampler album for his garage band, and right in the middle of all these Furry filksongs comes Let All Mortal Flesh Keep Silent, sung Absolutely Straight. @ Lydia: Dantonists stage a Coup on the Hebertists. Trust your kids to these godly idiots? Newman did not have an attorney on file for the case Monday. They dont want to know the sordid long term details of what goes into the grooming process or the evil deeds. The most ruinous con men are the most ingratiating, an unfriendly swindler wont get very far. I call it chosen ignorance. And that was back in the 80s, before a lot of this abuse was widely talked about. And justice on earth as it is in heaven is something God has called me to. Just really screwed-up stuff.". Neither you nor the other people in the parking lot are in the act of worshipping. This list of examples I could cite is pretty long. church must be a relational tension-free zone (to be legit). I saw an old proverb: I would rather file down the claws of a tiger than teach a sheep to attack. There he is alone with God Whose Voice echoes in his depths.. They were spurred by a growing public awareness of controversy linked to Kanakuk that began in early 2021. And Im sure there are many people outside the House of Driscoll who think Im defiling their holy temple just by standing on the sidewalk as a (very imperfect) warning about whats within. It cant fix the heart of the problem, or the culture, or the systems. (This was posted on the Open Discussion thread.). I am not surprised that anyone (especially those that lean towards giving the benefit of the doubt) would have downplayed the seriousness of what Pete had done. -Newman bombarded the plaintiff, referred to as "John Doe, J. G." in the petition with phone calls and letters and engaged in phone sex with him. Those poor zebras and giraffes. @wartwatch @ThouArtTheMan Would be interesting to see the pay-per-view history from the NAMB guys staying in those rooms. Dygert referred Hoffpauir then living overseas to Staples, who talked to Hoffpauir using the Skype app. some of you say he should go to hell? :o). Two members of Neugebauer's family have corroborated the details of his account and tell me they were told of his efforts contemporaneously: his wife and his father, who is a former member of the U.S. House of Representatives. ", In the book, White characterized masturbatingas "a release for a boy when his hormones get 'too hot to handle.' Both may rail against the world, but with a different attitude. Much appreciated! . Its not just religious organizations where the problem lies. It means they are selling you something, in this case themselves. Loritts allegedly responded It was just some skinny dipping thing. It is led by false teachers and false prophets (or profits.) They are unfortunately few around us. Again, never mind the theology behind that idea and the opposition to that idea. But we are specifically talking about what is passing as the Body of Christ to the world. Some animals are more equal than others. It was supposed to be a place that showed him Godd love. What ever happened to Eph. The Calvinistas look to me like militant political pseudo-conservative evangelicals. Fits right in. Just Like Disneyland or Vegas, Except CHRISTIAN(TM)!, (Tip: Just like fill-in-the-blank, Except CHRISTIAN(TM)! is NEVER a good sign.). It is a way of life for them. If we practice Jesus teaching, then we will judge leaders and their churches by what is actually produced. Our local news this week reported on a Baptist church music minister sentenced to 30 years in Federal prison for sexual exploitation of minors, including child pornography. I think every person wants to imagine that the tares, goats, and wolves in sheeps clothing are somewhere else, not in their own circles, certainly not anyone they know personally. If a bunch of boy and girl kampers had been caught skinny dipping together without adult supervision (dont know if boys and girls have separate sessions at that camp, or are there at the same time), I wonder if they would have been sent home in disgrace? It was, however, a good experience for the Young Tree Sapling to see that all is not as it is advertised to be, not even in Christian circles. Be still and know that I am God? Semi relevant, I was reading something the other day about dating sites and a lady said that narcissists use the free sites in part because they have some sort of quizzes they can study before coming after their prey. All of this costs money and the law firm has to lay that money out. Also,there seems to be an established Christian promotional/marketing thing that that pushes all these groups and ideas, so if one had a contrary message, not sure how they would get it heard. So, then we participate in receiving the Eucharist. She was surprised at how many parents just went along. The negotiations were a bruising experience. We have more options on the prevention side than we do in fixing the heart, so it makes sense to concentrate there. Just remember the side effect like Muslims after 9/11, Christians will circle the wagons against PERSECUTION!!!!! church must be a relational tension-free zone (to be legit). A reporter attempted calls to four phone numbers linked to Staples in public records databases. For lawyers to suggest that a child in this story is exaggerating the trauma he has went through is repulsive. I think that the active acceptance of the priority of personal moral conscience may be the one thing that has kept Christian orthodoxy clear of cult thinking because it allows the Holy Spirit to BE the Holy Spirit in the life of the Christian person directly. We may be seeing more of that soon with this group. I think its the ole carrot and the stick trick. He and his wife are sexual abuse trial lawyers. If anyone has the means to contribute that would be appreciated right now. He currently resides in Branson, Missouri, with his wife, Debbie Jo. There are very few things/people above criticism in my world. How does anyone overlook this? Contract worker, volunteer or direct hire: Makes no difference. 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